Imagine thinking burger flippers are entitled to a livable wage.

[MYTHCHILD]

So why start a war with countries not named China? Why lie about negotiations with China that aren't happening?

There’s a million reasons why, it’s all connected globally obviously and do you think these things are resolved with complete utmost transparency lol?

Yeah let’s appeal to other countries sense of fair play and publish all of our intentions in full clear English from day one, that will work and I’m sure China will do the same thing! I mean they’re known for their sense of fairness when it comes to trade and intellectual property!

 

[Saddam Hussein]

If there’s one thing I can genuinely speak on with authority for once on here, it’s tariffs - I’ve read thousands of pages of regulations over the last decade, designed software that government agencies communicate with in regards to collecting the duties from them, and have several in depth guides published on .gov websites about them.

This confrontation needs to happen, and we can all have whatever opinions on how and where it goes, but it does for sure have to happen.

It seems like things are bad now as a result and will only get worse in the future. Without any sort of real plan put forward, no person or business will want to invest in anything. Why would you if you have no idea what the macro environment will be next week? This shit is grinding our economy to a halt

 

[BakersfieldChimp]

Yeah let’s appeal to other countries sense of fair play and publish all of our intentions in full clear English from day one, that will work and I’m sure China will do the same thing! I mean they’re known for their sense of fairness when it comes to trade and intellectual property!

No one is making this claim.

 

[MYTHCHILD]

It seems like things are bad now as a result and will only get worse in the future. Without any sort of real plan put forward, no person or business will want to invest in anything. Why would you if you have no idea what the macro environment will be next week? This shit is grinding our economy to a halt

No one is making this claim.

I don’t think you appreciate the cost of inaction, and refuse to acknowledge nobody is claiming it wouldn’t be painful for a while as things readjust.

You both seem to be advocating that we need to capitulate weeks in because it didn’t cure everything instantly. Where’s your backbones?

 

[Gay Faggot.]

I don’t think you appreciate the cost of inaction, and refuse to acknowledge nobody is claiming it wouldn’t be painful for a while as things readjust.

You both seem to be advocating that we need to capitulate weeks in because it didn’t cure everything instantly. Where’s your backbones?

Uhhhh, sweetie, have you seen any of the new marvel movies? Captain America wins the first day. Stop being a bigot.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

I don’t think you appreciate the cost of inaction, and refuse to acknowledge nobody is claiming it wouldn’t be painful for a while as things readjust.

You both seem to be advocating that we need to capitulate weeks in because it didn’t cure everything instantly. Where’s your backbones?

I’m not against tariffs in principle. The way they rolled this out was moronic and harmful. Why can’t you admit that?

 

[Gay Faggot.]

I’m not against tariffs in principle. The way they rolled this out was moronic and harmful. Why can’t you admit that?

I’m curious, how do you think they should have done it? A “long term plan” told to everyone and done in small increments over 100 years wouldn’t really work.

 

[MYTHCHILD]

I’m not against tariffs in principle. The way they rolled this out was moronic and harmful. Why can’t you admit that?

Because I disagree, there’s no pain free sensible way to do what must be done. He’s doing what he does best, make a deal and do it from a position of “don’t fuck with me I don’t give a fuck I’ll do whatever I want” which I actually like.

 

[MYTHCHILD]

I’m curious, how do you think they should have done it? A “long term plan” told to everyone and done in small increments over 100 years wouldn’t really work.

If we asked really nicely, they’d definitely stop sabotaging American industry. If there’s one thing the Chinese respect, it’s servile politeness and tolerance of being raped.

 

[MYTHCHILD]

If I was president I’d be calling on Americans to do their part in the trade war and rape a Chinese woman.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

I’m curious, how do you think they should have done it? A “long term plan” told to everyone and done in small increments over 100 years wouldn’t really work.

Get other countries onboard against China. Make a deal that specifically excludes them. Force them to the table. Once they give concessions, move onto India or Vietnam or whatever other country with sketchy trade practices.

We did the opposite and isolated the country from everybody. Now they’re making deals without us. Most countries are not coming to the table, certainly not China

 

[MYTHCHILD]

Get other countries onboard against China. Make a deal that specifically excludes them. Force them to the table. Once they give concessions, move onto India or Vietnam or whatever other country with sketchy trade practices.

We did the opposite and isolated the country from everybody. Now they’re making deals without us. Most countries are not coming to the table, certainly not China

China circumvent restrictions by using third party countries to export into the US. Look at the increases into Mexico and Canada after the NAFTA trade deal.

I put it to you, sir, that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

China circumvent restrictions by using third party countries to export into the US. Look at the increases into Mexico and Canada after the NAFTA trade deal.

I put it to you, sir, that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

You’re delusional

 

[MYTHCHILD]

You’re delusional

I’ve read almost all the international trade agreements in place globally so I can program the systems to accommodate them accurately, I can tell you from the top of my head the rules around proof of origin of goods to qualify for duty relief for Japanese goods.

Can you tell me what we should be doing then? Specifically, what are we doing you disagree with?

 

[Petworth dude]

No one would build apartments if they were forced to charge rent that low

Which is why we need to reform zoning and permitting to allow the construction of more market-rate housing. At its core, it’s a supply and demand issue.

 

[Gay Faggot.]

You’re delusional

The Chinese move massive amounts of product through Vietnam, India, and they’ve been setting up SA countries for years to do this as well. America slaps a tariff, embargo, whatever on China? They change the port and “manufactured by” country and still ship it in. This is common practice by them.

Side note: They actually tried to set up Brazil for this, and the Brazilians are so corrupt the Chinese couldn’t make it profitable for them. That’s what the Dan Man is dealing with.

 

[MYTHCHILD]

The Chinese move massive amounts of product through Vietnam, India, and they’ve been setting up SA countries for years to do this as well. America slaps a tariff, embargo, whatever on China? They change the port and “manufactured by” country and still ship it in. This is common practice by them.

Side note: They actually tried to set up Brazil for this, and the Brazilians are so corrupt the Chinese couldn’t make it profitable for them. That’s what the Dan Man is dealing with.

The trade agreements are so long to try and stop all the loopholes for this, but you never can entirely, they send stuff un assembled into Mexico, they “assemble” it and it’s now made in Mexico and sold into the US under NAFTA (at the time)

 

[Gay Faggot.]

The trade agreements are so long to try and stop all the loopholes for this, but you never can entirely, they send stuff un assembled into Mexico, they “assemble” it and it’s now made in Mexico and sold into the US under NAFTA (at the time)

The products I was speaking of more specifically, are just straight up created in China and then shipped through India, Vietnam, Cambodia, whoever the fucking chinamen can get to cooperate with them. We slapped like a 300% tariff on China, so they move to India. Now India might receive a 300% tariff they’ve already begun transitioning to Vietnam. It’s pretty not fixable unless we call it out and stop with the bullshit.

 

[Bam's Cunt]

Fine but then what do we do with all these poor people in the country? You can’t just squeeze people forever and not expect some kind of backlash

Grind them up into Soylent green

 

[MYTHCHILD]

The products I was speaking of more specifically, are just straight up created in China and then shipped through India, Vietnam, Cambodia, whoever the fucking chinamen can get to cooperate with them. We slapped like a 300% tariff on China, so they move to India. Now India might receive a 300% tariff they’ve already begun transitioning to Vietnam. It’s pretty not fixable unless we call it out and stop with the bullshit.

Those guys think we shouldn’t do anything about it, for some reason.

Or, at best, they think we should but in a magical rainbow world where you can fix it in a way which only effects China alone and doesn’t upset anybody.